thank you for that. I thought they were correct, but now that I do not have the bike to compare them with, I wanted to be sure. I had plastic ones on my bike, but I didn't mind them and they were already molded in black (same color as my bike) so scratches didn't show up much. But I can see where the metal ones would be nice to have. Amazingly these tins are in pretty good condition. When I decided to bead blast them, the rubbers were still in all the notches. Of course when i tried to get them out they crumbled, but I was pretty impressed that they were even there in the first place. Thanks again for your input.